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On X11 and the Fascists Maggots (blogs.gnome.org)
submitted 1 week ago by Mihies@programming.dev to c/linux@programming.dev
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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

  • Fascists and Nazis
  • Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
  • “Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
  • A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[–] urandom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Those competent and talented people also managed to make extremely bad choices at every turn, and seem ideologically opposed to the idea of customization, resulting in an environment that is fundamentally painful to use unless you very specifically fit the box of what they expect users to be like.

There's nothing wrong with not providing customization. There's a perfectly decent customizable DE in KDE, anyone that wants to tinker can use that.

I don't want to tinker. I want something to just work, and not have too many knobs. Gnome fills this need perfectly. Thus, you saying that they made bad choices at every turn seems rather idiotic.

[–] wer2@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Except when I am forced to use a distro that only provides Gnome (looking at you RedHat).

[–] urandom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Redhat doesn’t provide KDE rpms? That’s some dump shit

[–] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago

they deprecated KDE as of 7 to 8. Guess how I know? Corporate IT upgraded our development servers.

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