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[–] NotProLemmy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (17 children)
[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] NotProLemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't you have to build everything from source in gentoo?

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] grinka@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What the point of using Gentoo with Binary packages?

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

Still extremely customizable, and peerless rolling release features.

You can mix and match stable and bleeding edge packages very easily and switch at any time.

When packages make breaking changes, Gentoo will warn you and guide you through the migration before you update and only if you have the affected package installed.

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

you still get huge amounts of choice and really good tooling

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

That's for you to decide.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That would make a huge difference.

I ran Gentoo back in the early aughts; it was hella better than Redhat, but it felt like I was constantly compiling stuff, and new installs and upgrades could sometimes take more than a day. I don't remember what I jumped to after Gentoo, but I've never considered it again because of the lack of prehbuilt binaries. It seemed bitcoinish to have thousands of people wasting CPU cycles compiling the same package when it could be compiled once and redistributed.

Where Gentoo is nice is in the build flags: there's really no way to get around compiling yourself if you want to exclude optional dependencies, and Gentoo had that in spades. I am just not sure how much that's actually used anymore, but having binaries gives you the best of both worlds.

Thanks for posting that; I may have to re-investigate Gentoo.

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

tbh, with modern CPUs it can be a lot easier. especially if you're a bit picky about your packages and get a binary package for your browser.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dunno. I have a fair number of packages installed from AUR, and the Rust ones take forever to compile. CPUs may have gotten faster, but some popular languages have gotten much slower to compile.

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Packaging rust is terrible, compiling rust is terrible. How can it be this awful? Why is the rust compiler so terrible?

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago

I've become a rust hater because of this

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

but having binaries

For big packages like browsers and office suites, not all packages.
Still a win if you're so inclined. I prefer to compile 100%.

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago

🤯
Well... kinda takes the edge off... i'll stick to compiling.

[–] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

new installs and upgrades could sometimes take more than a day

Laughs in Windows...

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

The most popular Linux distros are binary based. Gentoo upgrades build all new software from source. If you don't want long install times, don't usr one of these compile-everything-from-source distros.

There's no option to install Windows from source, and it doesn't really come with anything more than the OS, anyway, so it's apples yto oranges. Windows might not even be compilable on consumer hardware.

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