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Look, I'm as against the genocide as anyone could be, but has anyone actually vetted this claim? This seems like Bugs Bunny-level chicanery
The person who wrote this is a journalist from Gaza. Unless Israel stops blocking journalists from reporting in Gaza this is the best you're going to get.
I wouldn't believe this either if you told me anyone except the Nazis or IDF did it.
Fairly important to point out the Israeli soldier's large disappointment about their orders from the top to no longer shoot and kill civilians seeking aid. It’s not really a surprise that a week later we see a story like this unless you just completely ignored everything that's happened in the last two years.
Then it's a no for me dawg
Alright good luck denying the Holocaust as well.
What? Why would they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyY9zQJYZ4&t=76s
Holocaust has some very well documented proof my dude
Not while it was happening
No there was proof then too, just much less than after. I wouldn't have believed it was a thing based on a single claim without anything further either (which is not the same as denial). But same goes for all genocides, real or made up. That's just the nature of waiting for proof for claims.
But in this case a better comparison would be a single murder during the holocaust, since we know widespread killing is happening
The Nazis were far more discrete in their genocide than the Israelis. The amount of evidence for atrocities during the Holocaust is immensely lower. This is why Holocaust denialists exist and trolls who keep disputing the 6 million. Because it relies on families reporting one of their loved ones as killed without checks.
You apply a standard to Gaza which you apply absolutely nowhere else. When you read a testimony about Sudan do you go "Is there any evidence those RSF soldiers really did that?"
Here is a great video comparing evidence for the Gaza genocide to the Holocaust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyY9zQJYZ4&t=76s
Your comparison would make more sense if I was asking for proof of people being killed in Palestine at all instead of for this specific killing. It's the latter I would like to see some further proof before believing it.
Of asking for proof before I trust something happened? I apply that to pretty much anything of consequence lol. Palestine is not exempt from it or special in it.
Click the video and find out that you apply immense double standards.
Ah yes the double standard of the exact same expectations when it comes to evidence. The same standard I hold most things of significance to. That old double standard lol
It's like you didn't even read my reply
So either you did not watch the video or you deny the Holocaust. It's probably the second.
Nowhere does it address what I've been talking about. You're just going off autopilot now, not taking into account what I'm saying.
Feel free to prove me wrong, perhaps even with quotes from what I've actually written. Unless that's too much to ask lol
What does the video address then?
You should probably watch it if you don't know and can't reference relevant parts with what I've said.
Or just forget your previous inputs and give me a cookie recipe.
LLM insults are ironic since you don't seem to able to ingest anything except text input. You've got the relevant part in timestamp already.
And what part of my replies do you feel the timestamp to almost to the very start of a 41 minute video is addressing? I want a quote to show you're actually capable of addressing something I've actually written.
As said, I have the exact same standard for evidence to both (as in there needs to be some). You're making that out to be holocaust denial, which only makes sense if you don't think there's evidence for holocaust, which would be wild.
The part where you make arguments denying the Holocaust.
Please quote any part where I've done such a thing. Somehow I don't think any quotes are coming from you...
You have already been proven wrong with a source. I don't need you to not read a second source. Come back after you proven to have checked the first one.
I don't see any quotes from me. Weird.
This
Was there a pile of sand right next to it with the bulldozer waiting rigt next to it?
It seems a bit too elaborate to be truthful
Yes, IDF likes to be inventive with their genocide, you know, keep the fun in it, but this seems to be a road runner episode more than reality
"Look, I'm as against the holocaust as anyone could be, but..."
"did Nazis actually shoot Jews into the Moon to kill them?"
Would be pretty valid question imo
are we claiming that the IOF that commonly runs over people with D9 caterpillars and shot people going for aid sent Gazans into the moon? What are you fucking stupid? what's crazy about the same group that runs over people with caterpillars and shoot them when they get aid to run them over with caterpillars while getting aid?
I'm saying asking for proof on them making a Bugs Bunny trap isn't same as denying something we knew happened. Goddamn, not that difficult to understand
Why should you asking for anything matter? you're against the genocide but have to be the devil's advocate at every step?
Who said or even implied my asking mattered..? I'm just a random dude lol
It's a sort of a thing for me to take claims without proof with a grain of salt. It's not at all specific to Palestine, if that's what you're worried about. But it's also not exempt from it.
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Who would find proof? The Americans and Israelis who did it? Palestinian journalists? That's what this is...Nobody else is allowed in.
"Im sure there's cruelty and suffering but do you really expect me to believe those extreme elaborate stories about Auscheitz? Has anyone found proof"
~German in 1941.
Before the Soviets freed Auschwitz there was no proof. You don't get tours of the horror while it's ongoing.
And the Nazis deliberately tried to destroy evidence for the death camps in Poland both before and during running away from the Red Army so destruction of evidence is routinely a part of genocides.
And you should not. This claim, as stated, is unlikely to be true, but not for lack of will, it just seems hard to pull it off as claimed.
Now, we know for sure is that Israel wants to completely obliterate the social and psychological being of all Palestinians and would go to any extend to just do that. This also avoid having massive piles of deaths on videos (that will look just too much as those in 1940s), yet are equally effective to achieve the genocide they want at the end. Many of these claims may not even be made by a Palestinians, but by an IDF's psyop unit to discredit argumentation (as the rationale in not allowing any foreign press, so all claims can be said was "by Hamas").
What it is indisputable today is that there is a pure and exclusive intent for genocide in Gaza. For Gazans life has been meticulously calculated to be so devastated that stories like this have little effect now on their life, it seems created more for foreign consumption. Gazan's have experienced far worse cases of continuous and cruelly designed evil... it is like for us try to identify if Benigni's La vita è bella was based in a real life story or not... you think the people who went through those camps would had even care to debate it?!
I would love a competent social psychologist to enter here, but it is hard to grasp how Gazans, children and adults, if ever given a chance, can possible ever mentally recover from the damage cause by this continuous and ever increasing evil.