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China's foreign minister tells EU that Beijing cannot afford Russia to lose in Ukraine, media reports
(kyivindependent.com)
this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2025
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I guess that depends on what the US turns into...and there is no clarity there... :/
China's just talking about stopping Russia. Which the EU keeps saying it's the top priority. They're willing to spend billions to do it. China's saying you can save all that money, totally your choice. It's easy for me.
Edit see we are talking about different clarity. Europe has none. China has all of it.
Do you understand why the EU considers this a top priority? Hint: it is not about Ukraine's land or NATO/EU membership.
Well, as Kallas says, it's to go after China next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQTS1RC50A
So, after that statement, I honestly can't imagine China having more clarity on supporting Russia.
No, it's russia. The whole point of NATO is russia. russia needs to have its invincibility myth shattered and imperialist tendencies restrained (Merkel tried this with trade and failed) by learning that they wasted millions of people and gained nothing. This is a hard learned lesson by most EU countries and is the glue of the EU. If the EU loses this, the lesson is that pacifism is a losing strategy and russia will just learn that war pays, so they will regroup and return for more in a generation.
The US should have learned this too from Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan...and they do appear wary of starting new wars...even the neofascists.
China...has a lot of nationalists, but so far has focussed on trade...hasn't started any wars...fine with he EU. Could be a good partner to fight climate change, because the US and russia will never abandon their precious fossil fuels.
Oh God that's a lot of words that China doesn't care about. If you tell China that China's next after Russia, yeah China's gonna help Russia. Seems obvious. Why should China care why NATO?
By humiliating and pushing out the pacifists, you ensure that there will be war. That's it. The US is doing it, russia is doing it, China apparently also wants to do it, why not.
Really? You call a person literally threatening China and now sitting across the table a pacifist? You got a weird definition there buddy. I'll take the side of the country that hasn't been involved in a conflict for over 40 years.
Yeah, nobody in the EU is going to war with China, but its tech dominance (as the US's) poses a challenge to how the countries organize themselves. You confuse The EU with the west, but if the US abandoned NATO, would China abandon russia? I don't think so. So China's backstop of russia is a direct threat to the EU, whereas the EU is not direct threat to China without going through the US.
Did you not understand, that's exactly the offer China is giving the EU in this statement. Abandon the US and we can talk about abandoning Russia.
The EU can't abandon the US first, more likely that the US would abandon the EU... damn...this is like couples' therapy.
Ok, we were talking about why China said what they said. It's not some evil reason or an excuse to invade Taiwan. It's simply if your going to threaten us as next, then we will support Russia. Whatever reason the EU has to not abandon the raving lunatic in USA is not China's problem.