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The NYPD is skulking through the L train demanding IDs from Black and Latino men, again with zero justified cause or explanation as to why.

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[–] LodeMike 112 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Reminder that there legally cannot be a crime such as "failure to provide identification" outside of specific contexts like actively operating a vehicle, etc. Lots of states allow cops to require you to provide your legal name (and sometimes address) when detained, and courts usually have the ability to compell the same.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

In England, it's necessary to provide name and address when arrested, but, it's illegal for the police to arrest just to find out your name. But of course, how difficult is it for them to make up some asinine BS excuse?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"I smell weed" has been a classic for decades.

A long while back, I was harassed by the cops for "acting suspicious" while waiting for some friends at the mall. This quickly escalated to "suspected terrorist activity" for absolutely no reason I could discern or anyone afterwards could explain.

Cops just say shit. The best you can do is say you need to speak to a lawyer and clam up after that.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had the cops try to pin a bunch of crimes on me and a few coworkers once. Thought my life was over for a few days because they were very serious allegations. Fortunately their police report was so ridiculous as soon as someone competent got involved the whole thing was immediately dropped. The claims they made had literally no evidence and multiple witnesses could prove they were lying. Cops 100% will say anything, it makes their job easier and there's no consequences.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If a cop says the sky is blue, maybe check.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

It was probably overcast as fuck, if not heavily raining.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I got questioned by the police when waiting for the train in New York (state) once. I'm a white guy, though I had really long hair at the time. They came up and said someone had reported someone suspicious. I was like, well, I'm waiting for the train and my friends. They were like someone saw you looking in that car suspiciously. I said, that's my car. They asked if I had proof so I opened the door with the key.

Then my friend and her shitty little brother showed up. The brother yells "YO YOU GOT MY WEED??"

Luckily the cops realized that was an idiot 13 year old white kid, and they left.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

~~Luckily the cops realized that was an idiot 13 year old white kid~~

Luckily you were white. If you'd been anything else they would've been all over the car, maybe even planted something, and been like "well, we had to take the kid seriously just in case".

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 8 hours ago

True. I mentioned my whiteness in my comment intentionally, but maybe I should have made it more explicit as you have.

[–] Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 21 hours ago

Sounds about white.

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A guy I knew was on probation and would be visited by cops on a regular basis. During one of the visits, one of his roommates was on his computer doing some programming. The cop looked angry and asked him "are you hacking?"

Bruh...

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be honest, that's probably a question he has to ask.

When I was on probation I had a ton of random things I wasn't allowed to do including any crime on a computer. But since I work in IT a lot of my job "looks" like hacking so I had to get a letter from my boss basically saying "he is not hacking at work"

'Doing things i don't understand' is hacking.

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