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I've had three glasses of wine after a long day at work, and I've began thinking about the slow shift towards federalization/decentralization.

I find myself concerned about the question of incentives. What motivates the owners and maintainers of federated services to continue their efforts over the years? Donations alone are unlikely to cover the costs of servers, let alone the time required for code/infra maintenance, along with community moderation.

It is evident that most successful open source projects have found alternative avenues to sustain Incentivisation. One common approach is offering enterprise packages or services, which generate revenue to support ongoing development and maintenance. Additionally, some projects find support as subsets of larger corporations, such as Canonical, HashiCorp, Apache, MongoDB, k8s, Chromium, Android, Red Hat, and many more.

I am sure that many of us have witnessed many donation-based or entirely free and open-source (FOSS) projects lose traction over time. In my observations, this can be attributed to core maintainers losing interest or facing limitations in dedicating themselves to the project in the long run. The absence of financial incentives can make it challenging to sustain motivation, as maintaining and developing projects require significant time and expertise, and a genuine interest in the product.

What can be done to address these problems? Is it something like decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs)?

DAOs provide token-based incentives, allowing contributors to earn tokens representing ownership or value in the project. These tokens can be exchanged or redeemed for various benefits within the decentralized ecosystem. By aligning the interests of contributors with the success of the project, DAOs offer a sustainable incentive structure, while maintaining their decentralized nature.

Although incentives pose a valid concern for a decentralized future, it is important to acknowledge that sustainable models exist. Through the exploration of alternative mechanisms such as DAOs and hybrid models, we can create incentive structures that attract and retain contributors over the long term. I strongly believe that for decentralized projects to thrive and maintain momentum, it is crucial for them to embrace alternative models that effectively retain talented individuals. As these projects continue to innovate and adapt, exploring diverse incentive structures becomes essential to ensure their long-term success.

Thoughts?

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[-] koncertejo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Get that crypto shit out of here lmao. The answer is just building strong communities that give a shit about building good internet spaces. It's political, and that's not a bad thing. It's not hard, and it doesn't need to be profitable to work.

[-] ultraHQ@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

The answer is just building strong communities that give a shit about building good internet spaces

Like I said in my post, interests fade. Most open source projects I've seen fail. What keeps a core team around over the years, most of the time, isn't giving a shit.

[-] rysiek@szmer.info 3 points 1 year ago

What keeps a core team around over the years, most of the time, isn’t giving a shit.

It absolutely is.

Of course money is important and we need to support our communities, infrastructures, and so on, but if it's money is what's keeping a person working on a thing, they will get a better offer and move on. Like all the cryptobros who'd been pushing web3/DAO crap for years and now switched to pushing AI hype without batting an eye.

Or they will start exploiting their project for profit, to the detriment of the community, as we've seen with so, so many DAO-based cryptocurrency projects.

[-] animist@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Interests fade and so some communities/instances will die off and others will grow. We shouldn't try to fight organic growth and death. That leads to unnatural centralization and making the purpose of an organization simply that organization's continued existence.

[-] GuyDudeman@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

What is it then?

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