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I get that anything is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. That's besides the point. My point is, beyond speculation, what do crypto coins represent?

I also understand that the value of the US dollar is being questioned almost as much without the backing of gold.

But what I really want to know is what is at the foundation level of Bitcoin that people are buying into?

I have a basic understanding of the blockchain, etc. I sold 1BTC in 2017 for $1200 when I thought that was as high as it would go. At this point, at over $100kUSD and rising steadily, what is the $ limit and what is that limit based upon? I thought it was based on the value of mining to check transactions but this seems... not worth $100k to me.

I've been thinking, the only tangible value I personally see in Bitcoin, because it's not really being used as legitimate currency, is for criminals. By now, there must be trillions of dollars in BTC acquired by criminals holding corporations hostage. When you've got people like Trump involved (either explicitly or by way of manipulation) with an executive order to establish a crypto czar, this suggests to me that he's creating pathways for bad actors to more effectively gain more wealth. These are the people who are most excited in Bitcoin, beyond speculation.

I mean, there's little to nothing on the up and up with crypto, right? It's a scam. Right?

Please, factual answers only. I'm looking for someone to dispel my speculation with genuine economics of the matter.

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[–] JASN_DE@feddit.org 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My point is, beyond speculation, what do crypto coins represent?

Nothing.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One could argue envriomental damage or power consumption, which is of almost no relevance to a currency, but thats the imprint they leave on the world because of their existence.

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, this is what I came here to mention. Environmental damage and power consumption are what bitcoins cost, but those costs don’t give bitcoins any inherent value.

It’s actually a pretty appalling example of human ingenuity. We’ve managed to invent something that has a disproportionately terrible impact on every person on earth through its environmental effects, while simultaneously producing no practical value to anyone other than those wealthy enough to be in control of it.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

but those costs don’t give bitcoins any inherent value.

Because bitcoins cost X to produce, people believe they are worth X.

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