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[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

Wait zill they learn the matrix is about trans rights.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 18 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I'm convinced that that was just something that they decided to tack on to as an afterthought because it doesn't really make sense to view it in that context.

Especially if you include the sequels.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the confusing part is because the story of the movie doesn't fit with what most people, including myself, assume a trans-film would be.

The aesthetic and the environment I can kind of see are trans-coded. Jacking in to a fake world, and living in one where you're your true self fits. Even the plot as a whole of living under oppression to be your fake self I can understand. Getting away from the broad strokes it really challenges what I expected a trans-film to be and that's just confusing.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's not exactly a trans film in and of itself but it does use the those ideas at its core. it takes the vibes of the experience of being a trans person, and then builds a plot on those vibes

it's like a closeted trans film, hiding the true reason behind how it came to be. It had to be just broad strokes, otherwise it wouldn't have existed. Even today an outwardly trans film would have a very difficult time getting out of the "indi film with no budget not by choice, but becuase nobody wanted to fund it" hell

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it’s not exactly a trans film in and of itself but it does use the those ideas at its core.

The question if we're living in a simulation is nothing new.
It only became a "trans" movie 'cos the directors transitioned.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

i googled if the directors' intention was to always put that idea in Matrix and they said yes so i'll to with that

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Which to me sounds like wanting to score internet points.

At one point they cited Simulacra and Simulation and Ghost in the Shell as influences, so yes, it's about existentialism, consciousness, the simulation hypothesis, etc.
The trans topic fits right in but that wasn't the original goal (unless they had a human of one gender jack in and be another gender in the matrix). Are any trans people in the cast?

On a similar note, another such movie (from the same year) is eXistenZ.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

yeah i don't exactly buy that it was intentional but both directors turned out to be trans, so their life experience is definitely reflected in the script. and to be fair, it's very on brand for artists to say "oh yeah that was tooootally intentional, yes i planned it from the very beginning! yup!"

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

Sure, makes sense.
Yeah, Diesel and Twohy pulled than one when they claimed Riddick 3 was totally the 3rd part of a trilogy.

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