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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (11 children)

It would be better not to work undercover but as I said before there’s no guarantee under either political Administration about the right for a radical group to assemble wouldn’t be restricted so your point is moot.

And the fact you don't care means that you will be limited in what you can do. That makes your movement moot and not serious.

You’re neglect of doing literally any other work other than electoral advocacy it’s part of the reason the United States is in this mess and a major reason why the fascists are in the White House.

Again. I never said elections are the only think. I am saying that they are important.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Yeah I have a lot of historical Freedom Fighter groups that would disagree with your premise. In particular the ANC would like a word.

As would the Bolsheviks

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Well those freedom fighters al had a political party to set terms with their opponents and organize tangible material gains for supporters. Your lack of voting means you don't have that DNC or 3rd party, so yeah you are not a serious freedom fighter, nor are you working to have a true organization.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They made their own political party and did not use the one that pre-existed. Also they weren't solely focused on electoralism as even one of their most important aspects of the fight. They were focused on using electoralism to get their message out. They were focused on using electoralism to show how electoralism couldn't save them from their problems which directly led to the October Revolution.

I've also never said that you shouldn't vote for third party or work with third party only that you shouldn't waste a ton of time with parties focused on electoralism.

It's wonderful to be told what I mean over and over and over again when I've said quite clearly what I meant

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They made their own political party and did not use the one that pre-existed. Also they weren’t solely focused on electoralism as even one of their most important aspects of the fight. They were focused on using electoralism to get their message out. They were focused on using electoralism to show how electoralism couldn’t save them from their problems which directly led to the October Revolution.

100% and because of that they had leadership and structure to start their revolution. A thing you never will because you won't show up to vote and build out the movement. Tankies are not serious about the material conditions and getting results.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah sure if you keep repeating the line about "tankies" not taking things seriously somebody will believe you.

Somebody doesn't understand what local organization is.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, when i see tankies being serious about the reality that the most vulnerable is facing then i will see them as a serious group.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol I will let my comrades know that locally organizing doesn't count as political action. They will get a good laugh from that

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let them know to vote as well.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I will leave that for them to decide.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Be sure to show them the full thread.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago

I will they'll be riveted by your epistemology.

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