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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regarding the first point, drivers naturally trend towards the speed they "feel" is right. Also many modern cars practically idle faster than 20 once you get rolling.

Change the actual road to slow people down and reduce accidents.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, but you are making excuses for bad driving. It's still their fault that they drive too fast.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not excusing shit, I'm describing human behavior. Humans literally drift to the speed they think is right, by feel.

Don't assume intent.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But similarly, human behavior can be trained. We aren't NPCs. These bad drivers could be taught to drive at a safe speed regardless of the width of the street, through stricter education and enforcement. Pedestrians/cyclists/homes/businesses around the street -> drive slow, that should be an instinct.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I said "change the actual road"

Enforcement doesn't work for what I'm describing, without conscious effort, humans drift to the speed they think they need. Always. So whenever you try to policy it, you are asking folks to go against their nature.

Change the shape / characteristics of the road to change the speed people drive it.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

As I said, I completely agree that changing the shape of the road is an important component of this solution.

Yes, I am asking the operators of deadly heavy machinery to put in a small amount of conscious effort to keep people safe. Why is that an impossible request?