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Canadian Wildland Fire Information System - Government of Canada
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We definitely don't have options that let us stay under 1.5 degrees. We might still be able to stay under 2 degrees. We have a good chance of staying under 3 degrees, if we choose to act. Every part of a degree matters. Any reduction in greenhouse gasses means less climate impacts in the long run.
What can be done is mostly reducing our fossil fuel extraction. How to do that.. I have opinions, but I'm no sage. The world is complex, and has momentum, but it can change - it's been doing it constantly for ever, but doing it particularly fast in the last decades. Renewables are already massively outpacing what anyone was predicting 15 years ago. Social revolution is probably in order at some point (or will happen as part of the collapse of capitalism as the insurance industry collapses and takes the financial system down with it). There are lots of choices that can be made that affect how fast and hard that change happens, and how much pain it brings with it..
So you clearly haven't been following any global events or climate science over the last decade, and you didn't even watch the video either.
People like you aren't making anything better with your unfounded pipe dreams.
If anything you are making shit worse for everyone because you're spreading misinformation by promoting ignorance and hope for a future that isn't possible.
My dude, I have a PhD in climate science. And I have been involved in climate activism since 2005.
Nothing I said contradicted anything in your post, that I can see. And my outlook isn't very optimistic (but it's also not completely pessimistic).
I don't really see how Suzuki's giving up approach helps either.
What is there left to have any practical optimism about?
At least with enough people admitting defeat, fewer people will procreate and this will slightly lessen the impact we're having on climate and resources.
Did you even read my comment before responding aggressively? Do you see how there can be a difference between +2°C and +4°C?
I just don't see humanity cooperating together to not hit 4c warming. Nothing in the world around me gives me any inclination that people are capable of this or even particularly want it.
That's a bummer dude. Not all of us are in that space.
(I'm also not gonna profess any certainty of avoiding +4°C, but I still see a possibility, because I hang around a lot of people working on making it happen, in many diverse ways).
https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2022/09/death-by-hockey-sticks/