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[–] wahming@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're arguing that sexual orientation can be trained or influenced by our media, which is the exact argument that the Conservative right has been using to ban books (and everything else). It's also an argument that has been proven groundless time and time again.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pedophilia isn't a sexual orientation

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Source? Because every medical article I've seen states it is. We're not talking post-puberty 16 year olds, we're talking prepubescent little kids.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you link yours? I'd rather not go digging though that stuff right now.

I'd compare it more to a fetish.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://psychcentral.com/disorders/causes-of-pedophilia

TLDR: There's a ton of potential causes, and it's an underresearched topic. There's no real way to change the preference, only deal with and mitigate urges.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But this doesn't mitivate the urges then if you want to put it that way.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not? I obviously don't have first hand experience, but AFAIK it's essentially porn for those with the condition. Like any other porn, you watch it, get your rocks off, and forget about it until your hormones recharge. It's a harmless and victimless outlet for them, probably the only one I can think of.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't get desensitized to porn over time?

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to the point it becomes entirely ineffective. The point here is that we don't have a better way of dealing with or treating people with this issue. It's the least-worst option we have available to us.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still don't think feeding/appeasing the problem is better than treating it and cutting it out.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would agree with you, if we had any plausible way of treating and cutting it out. Unfortunately we don't, short of chemical castration.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think counseling or therapy is entirely ineffective?

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thus far, counselling and therapy is almost entirely only obtained by the portion of the group that has already acted on their thoughts and urges. I think we can agree that that's probably too late in terms of harm prevention. I also doubt we have the resources to provide that sort of personal treatment to everybody suffering from the issue, at least under our current system.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that doesn't mean we should give up

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not suggesting we do, that was not the point of the original discussion.