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edit: hey guys, 60+ comments, can't reply from now on, but know that I am grateful for your comments, keep the convo going. Thank you to the y'all people who gave unbiased answers and thanks also to those who told me about Waydroid and Docker

edit: Well, now that's sobering, apparently I can do most of these things on Windows with ease too. I won't be switching back to Windows anytime soon, but it appears that my friend was right. I am getting FOMO Fear of missing out right now.

I do need these apps right now, but there are some apps on Windows for which we don't have a great replacement

  1. Adobe
  2. MS word (yeah, I don't like Libre and most of Libre Suit) it's not as good as MS suite, of c, but it's really bad.
  3. Games ( a big one although steam is helping bridge the gap)
  4. Many torrented apps, most of these are Windows specific and thus I won't have any luck installing them on Linux.
  5. Apparently windows is allowing their users to use some Android apps?

Torrented apps would be my biggest concern, I mean, these are Windows specific, how can I run them on Linux? Seriously, I want to know how. Can wine run most of the apps without error? I am thinking of torrenting some educational software made for Windows.



Let me list the customizations I have done with my xfce desktop and you tell me if I can do that on Windows.

I told my friend that I can't leave linux because of all the customization I have done and he said, you just don't like to accept that Windows can do that too. Yeah, because I think it can't do some of it (and I like Linux better)

But yeah, let's give the devil it's due, can I do these things on Windows?

  1. I have applications which launch from terminal eg: vlc would open vlc (no questions asked, no other stuff needed, just type vlc)
  2. Bash scripts which updates my system (not completely, snaps and flatpaks seem to be immune to this). I am pretty sure you can't do this on Windows.
  3. I can basically automate most of my tasks and it has a good integration with my apps.
  4. I can create desktop launchers.
  5. Not update my system, I love to update because my updates aren't usually 4 freaking GB and the largest update I have seen has been 200-300 mbs, probably less but yeah, I was free to not update my PC if I so choose. Can you do this on Windows? And also, Linux updates fail less often, I mean, it might break your system, but the thing won't stop in the middle and say "Bye Bye, updates failed" and now you have to waste 4GB again to download the update. PS: You should always keep your apps upto date mostly for security reasons, but Linux won't force it on you and ruin your workflow.
  6. Create custom panel plugin.

  1. My understanding is that the Windows terminal sucks? I don't know why, it just looks bad.

I am sure as hell there are more but this is at the top of my mind rn, can I do this on Windows. Also, give me something that you personally do on Linux but can't do it on Windows.

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

what's the price of windows these days?

[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

a quick question, how do you buy your laptop? I mean, do you buy it with DOS installed in it. I don't know which country you live in but, how do you get a laptop without paying the Windows Tax?

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

I am glad you asked. You can just buy a laptop with linux on it: https://linuxpreloaded.com/

[–] starman@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In my country you can sometimes select in online shops if you want to have windows inslalled for additional cost.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Framework has the option to purchase a laptop without an operating system.

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

And there are a few other companies that sell Linux preloaded, like System76, or Pine64, or Star Labs, or Purism, or Malibal, or Slimbook, or ThinkPenguin, or Lenovo, or MOTHERFUXKING DELL

And if that's not enough variety, you can always buy used from Ebay

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In addition to the other replies, you can also buy developer laptops from some companies which comes with Linux preloaded - for instance, Dell has the XPS 13 Developer Edition, and HP have the Dev One. Lenovo also generally have good Linux compatibility - some of their laptops officially support Linux (eg Thinkpad Z13) and they generally have an option to buy a laptop with FreeDOS on it (or even no OS).

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

not all suppliers, but some had the option to choose linux

[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am sorry, I know to buy the OS cd it costs money, but on a bulk it really doesn't cost that much. Or so I have learned. I mean, I have seen Laptops running DOS have roughly the same price as Windows PC. This only matters if you have want to go back to windows. Since almost all laptops come with Windows 11 these days, it really doesn't cost that much to have a Windows 11 laptop.

It says 145 Euros but when you actually make do the math it costs you a very small fraction of this amount when you actually buy a PC/Laptop.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

my choice is between

  • downloading and installing the linux version of my choice
  • paying for an opaque OS that makes things difficult for me

i regularly use windows, macOS and linux. Linux works with its user. Windows can be bent and with macOS you're just a cashCow 🤷

[–] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

your link gives 34.99€ with a promotion of %87 off

[–] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Location dependent? This is from Germany: