MeanwhileOnGrad

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Meanwhile On Grad

Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!

What is a Tankie?

Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.

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Basic Rules:

Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.

Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.

Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.

Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.

You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.

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Tankies think the USSR invading Poland was actually a good thing, that they had no choice putting Polish citizens into labour camps and that they had to align with Nazi Germany. (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 week ago by goat@sh.itjust.works to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, pretty much. I guess the speculative lore progression is:

Lemmy.ml developers become communist because they value human freedom and economic justice 👍️
Dessalines goes further than that into pro-China and pro-USSR because he's young and like a lot of people has more idealism than sense and detailed knowledge, and attention-seeking iconoclasty is fun 🤔
Entire instances crop up full of people who love to "dunk on the libs" and be edgelords by posting pro-North Korea and pro-CCP content 😐
State actors join in to egg up the content and work to direct it subtly or unsubtly at the Democrats and NATO 🙁
Russian expats join in because they need a community and this is literally the only place that is accessible to them that will tell them that "their people" are anyone other than the villains ☹️ <- This comment thread is here
Groupthink intensifies, borders of the in-group solidify, anyone who questions the narrative get banned ☹️
"Hey guys can we have some of your money for Lemmy development" 🙄

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

You hit the nail on the head

[–] Tollana1234567 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

they went so far left, they end up being on the right/autotharian.

[–] Tomassci@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't say this is due to simply being far-left. It may have started as such, but then they decided to subdue their political beliefs to geopolitics, and pursue geopolitical beliefs first and foremost. And those geopolitical beliefs favor a competition-minded worldview, a "might makes right" one, and a black'n'white perception. Tankies have just started being fanatic for one of the sides, almost being nationalists for another country, just like far-rightists.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 4 points 1 week ago

An authoritarians only priority is their authority. Their economic leanings can flip on a dime depending on what's convenient. So technically they are economically centrist by circumstance. But have never been meaningfully left in any sense.