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Trump says Ukraine needs to make a deal after summit with Putin ends without ceasefire
(www.reuters.com)
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People are already dying ffs. Stop the deaths that are happening right now than fearing for potential genocide. I don’t even think Putin wants a genocide, he just wants land.
Edit - It is extortion 100% but what is the alternative?
And there it is, ladies and gentlemen. The West isn't doing anything. Ukraine is the one who was invaded by Russia, and Ukraine is the one who will continue fighting until Russia is out. It was a matter of time before you started regurgitating Russian propaganda.
I don't agree with npdean, but isn't that a bit of a stretch?
What propaganda?
There are several problems with making a deal like that.
The primary one is that they already had a deal with Russia and Russia broke it in 2014 and then again in 2022. So why would anyone believe that another deal would stick? They’d just take time to regroup and be back a few years later.
Another is that making a deal where Russia keeps the land that they have control over isn’t a deal, it’s letting Russia keep what they stole. What would Ukraine get from this deal (other than the end to the war as you pointed out)? That’s like making a deal with a burglar saying that they can keep what they stole as long as they get out of the house.
Agreed, it is not wise to just give up land. It has to be accompanied by solid security measures and guarantees. As I said in another comment, there has to be a diplomatic solution after a ceasefire.
So can Ukraine. Ukraine can also make use of the time.
Yes, because he has a gun to my head. I will gladly let them take my whole house if that happened.
This guy would let his family get raped and killed to save his own skin.
There is a slight difference between a family and a country.
You've said yourself that if you're at gunpoint, you'd let them have your home. Which means you'd let them rape and murder your family.
Problem with this comparison is that family and house are different. And it cannot be extrapolated to a country because of the sheer size of it.
Let me guess, your favorite line is "You should just lay back and accept it."