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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Words change. He came up with a really good one and people ran with it. It no longer means what he initially made it to mean. That's how all language in all of the world works.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 3 points 9 months ago

You're saying that if someone wants to descibe enshittification they need to invent a word for it?

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

Did you reply to the right guy? That's definitely not what I said.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

You said that the definition of enshittification has changed since January, meaning that if someone wanted to describe "the process formerly known as enshittification" they'd presumeably need a new word, right?

I not disagreeing with you that words change over time, I'm just trying to keep up!

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

No. I hope that answers your question.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social -3 points 9 months ago

Except it means nothing in that usage. Some people ran with it. Others decided to not be ridiculous and just apply it without rhyme or reason. Outside the Fediverse, it's nearly unknown. Inside the fediverse, when it's misused, it's usually in a very obvious and uncritical manner. It is still commonly used properly.

Don't take the power away from words just because you literally like the word itself. It's immature.

If you use it to apply to all unpopular corporate decisions, it's no longer powerful and doesn't have any meaning.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

This isn't a new thing, my brother. Half the words you use on a given day probably had a different meaning when they came about. If anyone is being immature here, it's you guys who seem to think English should be static and never updated. And for what it's worth, I think it's used pretty accurately when I see it get used, and I think the way it was used in this thread is apt.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

So now we don't have a word anymore to describe something that we used to have a word. And we already had words to describe what the person above was.

The language has lost use.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Again, that's how language has worked for literally centuries, but I completely disagree with your conclusion. If you're not yet aware, some words, can have multiple meanings even with the same spelling.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

Except due to the new usage one now has to basically define it to give it the correct context. It's lost its power to be used and immediately understood. If what you say is true, it cannot be used efficiently to why it was coined.

And pretending it's not suddenly being used because of Doctorow is naive.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago
[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago
[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

My guy, you're fuming over a word. This isn't a healthy way to be.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

Your ability to determine how another is feeling via words is lacking. I'm not fuming. I'm not even that angry. I just am having a discussion and you're responding like you're not even out of high school. Its just frustrating communication.

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