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Apple removes app created by Andrew Tate::Legal firm had said Real World Portal encouraged misogyny and there was evidence to suggest it is an illegal pyramid scheme

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[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If he's convicted, or if I judge orders it before he's convicted, then the app goes down. It shouldn't be up to Apple because of the monopoly / walled garden they created.

If they just allowed 3rd party apps and/or sideloading apps, none of this would be a concern and I'd be 100% ok with Apple taking it off their store.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're leaving it up to Apple if he's convicted too. Either way it's up to Apple. They aren't legally required to get rid of an app of a convicted rapist and human trafficker. So what's the difference?

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They aren't legally required to get rid of an app of a convicted rapist and human trafficker.

I'm arguing that they should be legally required to take it down in that case if ordered by a judge, and also, that they should be legally required to let users install whatever app they want on their device, either side loading, 3rd party stores, or whatever.

Currently these aren't true, but one can dream

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

if ordered by a judge

So as long as the judge doesn't say he can't make money from his app, Apple should keep up the app making money for the convicted rapist and human trafficker. Got it.

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Judges aren't perfect, and our justice system isn't perfecr, but it's the best we got... people do get away with murder sometimes, but that's a whole different story that I don't think belongs here

Got it.

We're adults (I hope), let's behave like such and not put words in each other's mouth. I didn't say any of those words and you know it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You very definitely did say that. I quoted you. You very clearly said that Apple should only take down a convicted rapist and human trafficker's app if a judge orders it.

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Again, I quoted you. I have no idea why you're trying to gaslight now.

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Here are my words above:

If he’s convicted, or if I judge orders it before he’s convicted, then the app goes down

Once convicted the app should go down period. If deemed very dangerous, a judge could order it down even before while awaiting the verdict. Hopefully that clarifies it.