If you are new, XMPP and Matrix are two competing federated end-to-end encrypted messengers. XMPP is far better, on server cost decentralization, speed over Tor, degoogled push notifications, multi-identities, and overall privacy. So if Matrix is inferior centralized bloatware, why is it more popular? Especially among XMR techies, who should in theory understand these concepts.

This brand new video gives a quick overview of the technical reasons that XMPP is the gold standard king of federation. And it briefly discusses how Matrix manages to push it’s agenda: https://video.simplifiedprivacy.com/xmpp-vs-matrix-why-matrix-sucks/

Some critics will say that “Matrix is a complete package, while XMPP is fragmented”. This is essentially propaganda, because all the XMPP clients interact (Dino, Gajim, conversations, monocles). The only one that doesn’t interact is OTR encryption from pidgin which provides an alternative for hardcore cypherpunks who want to destroy the encryption keys when the conversation is done. So because one single client has an alternative use case, the Matrix cheerleaders want us to fill out Google Captcha spyware to register on Matrix.org because it costs so much to self-host.

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[–] k4r4b3y@mitra.karapara.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@opal @ShadowRebel I agree. Do the tabulations. List the pros and cons, and see if you want to use matrix dendrite.

[–] opal@ap.maladaptive.art 1 points 11 months ago

@k4r4b3y @ShadowRebel dendrite does not solve this join-delay issue when joining rooms on remote servers, particularly rooms hosted at all on matrix.org (i.e. the DAG involves matrix.org in some way), because the weakest link is the bottleneck in the matrix protocol