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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 36 points 2 years ago (40 children)

Honestly, this place is full of communists. I’m not the biggest fan of communists, to be frank. There is a lot of backwards ideas that get accepted as “leftist,” when they’re really statist. Particularly revisionist history statist. If a communist party said it, you gotta defend it kinda thing.

[–] InevitableWaffles@midwest.social 31 points 2 years ago (15 children)

I don't identify as a communist. I just don't want life to be unreasonably difficult for people. Thats it. I just what the promise of what labor was supposed to be. I want it to free us from the shackles of work or die. Guess that is extreme left now even with tankies around the corner from us.

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Exactly. We have 50 years of computer driven exponential growth and not a fucking thing is better for us. We don't work less, travel more, be richer, live a better life, or have a better future for the planet. It should make everyone anti-capitalist.

[–] Querk@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Data I've seen suggests otherwise. Care to engage with me so that we can figure out where the discrepancy lies?

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're joking, right? A peasant in the 1200s would work less than a regular person today.

[–] Querk@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you think an average person in 13th century had a better quality of life than an average person living in the 21st century?

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In many aspects, yes, they did lead a more fulfilling life.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imma call bullshit on that one lol

And sources for that?

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For one, the fact their work (which took significantly less time) lead to a real, objective difference and benefit in their society. There's also the fact that anyone not enslaved had partial or complete ownership of their lands. Not to be underestimated, as well, is the fact their society wasn't immediately doomed to collapse from worldwide catastrophes.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I'm sure the women had great lives

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