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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 year ago (47 children)

I'm very conflicted on this one.

Child porn one of those things that won't go away if you prohibit it, like alcohol. It'll just go underground and cause harm to real children.

AI child pornography images, as disturbing as they might be, would serve a "need", if you will, while not actually harming children. Since child pornography doesn't appear to be one of those "try it and you'll get addicted" things, I'm genuinely wondering if this would actually reduce the harm caused to real children. If so, I think it should be legal.

[–] clausetrophobic@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Normalisation in culture has effects on how people behave in the real world. Look at Japan's sexualization of women and minors, and how they have huge problems with sexual assault. It's not about whether or not real children are getting hurt, it's about whether it's morally right or wrong. And as a society, we've decided that CP is very wrong as a moral concept.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's the thing though, being too paranoid about normalization also makes the problem worse, because the truth is that these are people with severe mental problems, who in all likelihood want to seek professional help in most cases.

The problem is the subject is SO taboo that even a lot of mental health professionals will chase them off like rabid animals when the solution is developing an understanding that can lead to a clinical treatment plan for these cases.

Doing that will also help the CSAM problem too since getting people out of the alleyways and into professional help will shrink the market significantly, both immediately and overtime, reducing the amount of content that gets made, and as a result, the amount of children victimized to make that content.

The key factor remains, we have to stop treating these people like inhuman monsters that deserve death and far worse whenever they're found. They're sick in the head souls who need robust mental health care and thought management strategies.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of that is an argument for normalisation via legalisation. Offenders and potential offenders should feel safe to seek help. Legalising AI-generated CSAM just makes it much less likely that they'll see the need to seek help. In much the same way that rapists assume all men are rapists, because most men don't make it clear that they're not.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, should I make clear to every bank that I'm not a bank robber? Do I seriously have to tell every woman that I am not a rapist? That is a really bad argument. The vast VAST majority of men are not rapists, saying that it's men's fault because they don't apologize or clarify that they're not rapists is just... crazy

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where did you get any of that from? Why does any of what I said somehow imply telling women anything at all?

Get a fucking grip.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the other hand, producing porn is illegal in India and they have huge problems with sexual assault too.

[–] Shush@reddthat.com -4 points 1 year ago

Producing - sure. But consuming?

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