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Ah yes, great point, so clearly Russia should 'liberate' them with tanks and missiles. NATO exists precisely to stop Russia from doing to member states what they are doing in Ukraine. Countries in E. Europe were not coerced or forced into joining NATO or the EU. Nobody has any interest in invading Russia, because it would be futile and entirely useless.
Wrong. Check your NATO history.
Why don’t you tell me what you think it is instead of “wrong”?
I didn’t say “NATO was started to…” yes, it was founded to stop the Soviets from expanding and as a pact of mutual defense. Same thing. Obviously the USSR doesn’t exist now so that wouldn’t continue to be a goal.
NATO should have dissolved as an organization after it’s goal of thwarting communism from the Soviet Union was met. Because it’s real goal is capitalist hegemony it continues.
I don't see why they would do that. it's basically just an alliance of the US and EU. Are they capitalists? Sure, so what. I don't see that changing any time soon. At the same time, the usefulness of a mutual defense between the two continues. Russia's demonstrating that right now. If not for NATO, who else would they be invading soon? Belarus? Poland? Estonia? Why would NATO choose to dissolve and allow that?
Well, there’s your problem!
What's the alternative you're suggesting? What major countries who rival NATO are not capitalist? They should cancel NATO and let smaller countries be taken over by capitalist Russia because the EU is capitalist? "NATO member countries should change their economic system" isn't the same as "NATO shouldn't exist".
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