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[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 182 points 1 year ago (125 children)

Everyone here is arguing the benefits of prohibition. I'm just interested to know how much money Rishi (and/or his family members/friends/donors) have invested in vaping and nicotine alternatives.

[–] BigDill99@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of the alternatives are already owned by Big Tobacco

[–] uis@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You can go EU-way and say that all vapes should be rechargable(in both meanings), repairable and intercompatible. Basically opposite of what Big Tabacco does.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disposable vapes should be banned.

Though even the reusable ones generate a decent amount of waste between coil assemblies that get replaced and the plastic bottles the juice comes in. I mean, I hope we eventually get to managing waste at that level, though I'm not holding my breath since it would require huge changes to the way we handle food logistics, which eclipses vape juice waste by a lot per person.

But the disposable ones are ridiculous.

[–] Dontfearthereaper123@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can build your own coils and mix your own liquid. Me and my mate both do it it's far cheaper and better for the environment, not too hard either once uve learnt the basics of materials and ohms n all.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can build your own coils

But you cannot use them in disposable shit. Selling and producing disposable shit should be banned.

Glycerin costs 2.5$ for 1 liter bottle. And food flavoring about 6-10$ for 0.1 liter bottle.

[–] Dontfearthereaper123@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disposables could have a use assuming they were more like pods but made from biodegradable materials that are sustainably sources I,e wood or something but that wouldnt solve the coke bottles everywhere and those r worse. The problem isn't smoking or vaping and it never was the problem is companies knowing they could get away with not being ecologically responsible and by putting the blame on disposables bring used, all you do is help them shift the blame away.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but made from biodegradable materials that are sustainably sources

Greenwashing.

[–] Dontfearthereaper123@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Is that like a play on words for brain washing? I've made ecigs from wood i''ve cut myself the only downside I've noticed is if the wood gets wet but for disposables that would matter less.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Halp! I have no idea how to recharge my cigar! Beyond that, i really have no idea how Big Tobacco would comply with these regulations.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

At all or while making insane profit and producing a lot of waste? At all simple: just look how vapes looked like before Big Tabacco came and enshittified them.

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