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The original was posted on /r/upliftingnews by /u/DyeZaster on 2023-10-05 17:58:02.

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[–] query@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Spend all the money that's spent trying to find welfare cheats (and cost more than they could possibly save anyway) on basic income instead.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean, let's not stop there. Our DOD could cut back, go after high income tax cheats and dodgers. There is a list for sure. FYI, Alaska has had Basic Income for awhile now. They call it something else and it fluctuates, but that's generally what it is.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alaska is super progressive on that front. It’s not UBI per se. It’s closer to what the Saudis and some other oil-based countries do.

The basic argument is that oil, as a natural resource, belongs to Alaskans in common in the same way as air and water does. Oil companies must pay for extracting the resource, and part of that pay is directly remitted to the citizens. I think both Alaska and Alaskans should be getting more than they are, but that’s the general idea and legal justification as I understand it in practice, I believe it comes out to only a few thousand per year per person, but I’m not Alaskan and am open to correction on any of these points. It’s just something I looked into as a UBI supporter myself.

[–] query@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's sort of the Libertarian version of the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund, if public income can exist in Libertarianism. Give everyone cash now instead of having a public agency invest it for the future.

And yeah, it probably should be higher. Per person oil and gas income for the state of Norway was $24 000 last year (at the current exchange rate). Although I haven't checked per capita oil and gas extraction.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No not our military! Then we'll have nothing to brag about and threaten other countries with! We don't need to spend money on education or human welfare! We need more guns! More tanks! More jets! More drones!/s

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair, the military is almost a form of basic income. It's mostly poor people who join to go to school, etc.

They need the poors to fight their wars and work on their factory floors.

So self-selected indentured servitude for the poor classes

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

"why don't presidents fight the wars? Why do they always send the poor?"

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Here's the thing, there's no need to cut back on anything, just be more accountable.