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[–] Artaca@lemdro.id 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, no it is not. Everyday religious people are as normal as any everyday atheist or agnostic, and believing in something should never be considered a detractor. Zealots? Extremists? Fuck em. Regular ass people who find comfort in there being sky wizards? Who gives a shit. And I say this as an atheist.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Who gives a shit.

Anyone with a brain. Believing in nonsense is the first step to giving up on reasoning and empirical evidence. If they're prepared to believe a sky fairy does magic, what is to stop them from believing that climate change is false or that the Earth is flat?

[–] rainerloeten@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, religion encourages non-logical thinking from early on and rewards believing anti-scientific things.

In most cases this isn't doing too much harm, but we can see how quick this can change. That's why 'harmless sky wizard' doesn't capture the dangers that evolve around religious, absolute believes imo.

I want to add that I don't agree with everything that e.g. Richard Dawkins says tho, in case this sounded like that. And ofc religion can give people strength or comfort but it can also give them false hopes and be used to manipulate people.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because there is no definite proof of God existing or not, meanwhile we know for a fact that the earth is round and is constantly heating up.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because there is no definite proof of God existing or not

There is no definite proof, from your perspective, that I'm not a magic rabbit - would be reasonable to believe me as a magic rabbit?

meanwhile we know for a fact that the earth is round and is constantly heating up.

There's no definitive proof a magic fairy won't make all the changes since pre-industrial society disappear and fix all of our issues. Is that a reasonable expectation?

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is no definite proof, from your perspective, that I’m not a magic rabbit - would be reasonable to believe me as a magic rabbit?

There’s no definitive proof a magic fairy won’t make all the changes since pre-industrial society disappear and fix all of our issues. Is that a reasonable expectation?

As long as I’m not making important decisions with the assumption that you’re a magic rabbit and that a magic fairy will fix our issues sure, I see no problem believing that.

If you think “hey, the magic fairy might come and fix everything, but it also might not so let’s still try fixing it ourselves first” that’s still good. It’s when people are absolutely certain of uncertain things that problems arise.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as I’m not making important decisions

Therein lies the issue – the religious ALWAYS default to using their sky fairy as an answer in the end.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, that kind of religious people are dangerous. And they’re a large part, if not the majority. But it’s still not all of them, plenty of important scientists have been religious for example.