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[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Their pixel exclusive features absolutely do not require the tensor SOC. They would work on any flagship chip.

The source is Google want to be Apple with respect to phones. They crave that locked down closed source OS where everyone is beholden to them. They don’t like that their product is used against them by their competitors who often do it better. They’ll drop android development in the relatively near future 100%, when they have their closed source replacement.

[–] joemo@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah ok, so this is just "Google bad and kills everything" got it 👍. Whatever you need to tell yourself to help you sleep at night I guess.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No? Not sure how you got that from what I posted lol.

Google aren’t going to kill android. I never said that. What they’re going to do is make a new OS for their mobiles and devices and stop android development. As I pointed out, they’ve already begun this with fuchsia and by not adding 90% of their new OS features to AOSP. They don’t want their OS to be open source anymore, that was just how they would capture the market they wanted.

The last few Android OS versions outside of pixels have just been essentially UI and security updates. Virtually no new features. Everything is pixel exclusive. This is their way of weaning off Android into their new closed source OS. They’ve already updated all of their Google home hubs to fuchsia.

[–] joemo@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is stopping Android development not killing it? If there's no security patches, is it not effectively dead?

https://giphy.com/gifs/news-biden-joe-cnn-town-hall-XgfrHQLDgFy4b1XiRR

Do you expect Google to come and forcefully take any Android devices from your hands to consider it killed?

What would it take for you to consider Google to have killed android?

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Is stopping Android development not killing it?

No, because AOSP is open source. Samsung for example has been doing far more for android development than Google have.

What would it take for you to consider Google to have killed android?

Google can't really kill Android because it's open source and every OEM has their own fork of it.

[–] joemo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok so if Google can't really kill Android, then why are people upset or concerned about this seven year promise?

Also since Google has "Seven years of OS, Security and feature drop updates" listed as part of the specs of the 8 Pro, they have to actually ship seven years of OS (Android, you can't switch this to something else or they can be sued, and I'm sure Google wouldn't want to pay these fines).

So keep being upset over nothing?

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well they could definitely drop the updates in that time, that’s why people are concerned.

[–] joemo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago

So then they are not patching security issues? Yeah I don't think that will go over too well, specifically with the EU. It may not be a quick and easy process, but statements like this have consequences.