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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6541859

Wiki - The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually ceased or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly self-contradictory idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.

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[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know that LGBTQ acceptance doesn’t do anything bad. But, just as sure as you and I are that LGBTQ people are great people. The conservatives are that sure that they are a plague on mankind. Conservatives truly believe that their kids are in danger.

However, to ban the intolerant makes you intolerant. You would be persecuting the intolerant. I would argue that action would make you more intolerant than the intolerant people you are persecuting.

The only option is to teach our kids to be better, and expose them to as many different kinds of people in society as possible. While reinforcing that no matter a person’s position in life. There are good and bad people.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

However, to ban the intolerant makes you intolerant. You would be persecuting the intolerant. I would argue that action would make you more intolerant than the intolerant people you are persecuting.

This is the Enlightened Centrist nonsense that this post is addressing.

[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So, what you just typed there is called an ad hominem fallacy. It’s where you assault my character to try and make me seem less credible while contributing nothing to the discussion.

In other words. Even if I were a centrist. If I’m correct. I’m still correct.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

No, your character is not being assaulted, the already-addressed-by-the-post argument you're presenting is. You're simply regurgitating the Paradox of Tolerance again.

[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

This post literally is the Paradox of Tolerance. I simply pointed out that every time I see this posted. They always stop at “the paradox is that intolerance can’t be tolerated”. But no solutions past that are given.

So, I was exploring what comes after we know that intolerance can’t be tolerated. I commented with 2 separate outcomes that I could think of, and both of them are deeply flawed. You latched on to one of them.

[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Great complete rewording of your argument there.