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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1255003

A Canadian judge has ruled that the popular “thumbs-up” emoji not only can be used as a contract agreement, but is just as valid as an actual signature. The Saskatchewan-based judge made the ruling on the grounds that the courts must adapt to the “new reality” of how people communicate, as originally reported by The Guardian.

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[–] DarraignTheSane@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If the question asked was "do you agree to the contract?" and the farmer answered "👍", then yeah I can see it. But if the question asked was "have you received the contract?", then this ruling is bullshit. Unfortunately the article doesn't have enough information either way.

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This article references another article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/06/canada-judge-thumbs-up-emoji-sign-contract

Apparently the message was an image of the contract and "please confirm flax contract". Seems like the most likely interpretation of the 👍 is agreeing to the contract, not confirming receipt.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

And the farmer had done the same with other contacts multiple times before.

[–] DarraignTheSane@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, well then yeah he should have been more explicit, or simply not replied.

[–] zumi@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly. But I think the farmer actually did want to agree and lock in the price of the flax.

Only reason they were looking for a way out was because flax had skyrocketed and they wanted to sell to someone else.

Three times prior they replied with “Looks good,” “Ok” and “Yup.”, and then delivered the flax per the contract. It was only when the price went up they wanted to say they were not agreeing to it.

In either case the judge was pretty specific that this was not a precedent for the thumbs up emoji, but just that in this particular case it sure looked like consent based on past actions.

[–] zumi@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

Wow this article on this subject has the least info. And the judge did not rule that it is always the case that a thumbs up would be binding, just that the context in this case it was.

The other party sent over the contract with he text: "Please confirm flax contract." They then responded with thumbs up.

3 times prior to this, this exact same exchange happened. In each of these times the farmer replied with “Looks good,” “Ok” and “Yup.”. After which in all 3 instances the farmer then delivered the flax.

In this particular case the farmer replied with thumbs up. Then after 3 months the price of flax skyrocketed. And of course the farmer now wants a better price.

In this case the three prior contracts being agreed to with only a “Looks good,” “Ok” and “Yup.” and then being delivered seem to point that a thumbs up is pretty much along those lines.

Oh here is a version of the article that has a little more detail:

https://fortune.com/2023/07/07/canadian-judge-rules-thumbs-up-emoji-binding-contract/