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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[–] ZIRO@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not really a relevant argument. It isn't about whether people care about babies or not. Rather, this is a question of ethics: is it morally wrong to kill a baby if it's still in your body but could live outside your body? If not, why not, assuming that it is morally wrong to kill another human?

[–] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they don't care about babies their opinion doesn't matter about an unborn baby. Period.

[–] ZIRO@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Excepting the opinion of the imaginary person you've invented, the question still remains.

Edit: and I would like to add that I do not align myself with conservative politics. I just question the morality of killing a being that would have likely lived if it had been removed from the mother.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I find this argumentation very weird. It is still in her body, it's a part of her body. No one should have these kinds of rights over another person's body. A person who actually is already alive, btw (the woman is also a living person).

Do you think people should be forced to donate organs? I feel this is a better analogy where men are actually included and can't just stand by an watch how others are forced into stuff.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She chose to kill a baby that would have been alive had she given birth to it right there and then - that's what makes this case different to someone getting an abortion at 8 weeks.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By having your carbon footprint, you're causing the death of billions of humans who would be alive in the future.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not going to get anywhere making dumb arguments like that.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You're not going to get anywhere making zero arguments.