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Does the reddit style format breed toxicity? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by Joe_0237@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Does the reddit style format inherently make for a toxic environment? Or is it a culture of toxicity from the influx of reditors? For lack of a beter example, on stackoverflow, when someone down votes you, it comes with a comment saying how to improve. On mastodon, people can't downvote you. These platforms are a joy to use, lemmy is depressing if you post. Its depressing because every post or comment, no mater the quality comes with downvotes, and usually no criticism to accompany it, you are left not knowing if youve made a mistake, or if its just trolls, bots, or idiots. At the end you feel insulted not improved. What do you think?

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[–] Widowmaker_Best_Girl@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People on Lemmy try to rationalize that they'll use the downvote as intended (off topic content) but our ape brains eventually just make downvote = I don't like said thing.

I wish we could do away with upvotes and downvotes altogether.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 15 points 1 year ago

For me it always was about "Do I want to see posts/comments like this?" If yes, upvote, if not, downvote, if I don't care, then nothing. Off-topic is for reporting to mods, not downvoting IMO.

[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I think having some form of "I agree with this" or similar helps to make you feel engaged with the content (for better or worse).

I think perhaps the actual person responsible for the post or comment shouldn't be able to see the results, though, otherwise it just becomes another ego building thing, and you see people strategising explicitly to build karma like on reddit. instead, the author should see a rating, like "slight approval" "mixed feelings" "strong dissent", etc.

[–] notacat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

How dare you. As a former redditor now lemming I would wilt into a shriveled, frail, incontinent, barely conscious entity without the ego-fueling fire of my all-powerful downvote.

[–] SapphicFemme@lib.lgbt 2 points 1 year ago

I agree. Upvotes and downvotes are rubbish.