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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[–] gornius@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't even hate Apple that much, but what I hate is that every time I find out somebody I know uses Apple product I say to myself in quiet "Oh gosh...", because very often the reason they use Apple whatever is to feel better than somebody.

And I hate people like these. Not every Apple enjoyer is like that, and there are legitimate reasons to go Apple, like wanting that ecosystem, good camera,, using something that just works or go with Apple Silicon revolution. And no, Apple is not really private.

But in most cases their reasons are either a fucking IM bubbles (because I don't want to spend 5 seconds to install an app that works anywhere) or it just "doesn't lag" (which any phone over $200 doesn't) which is obviously a fucking bullshit to cover the actual answer which is "I wanted to feel better by having shit that every fancy person uses".

But the funniest people are the ones trying to explain these "amazing features" to me, totally ignoring the points that IM sucks on Android because Apple pushes their own standard and refuses to use open ones, that no sideloading and Apple controlling whole app ecosystem is the best thing ever and that Android is slow, because it [put any argument Apple fanboy without the basic OS concepts understanding would make] and not because you used $100 phone and switched to a motherfucking $600 phone. Wow, who would've thought?

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

good camera

yeah but... apple dont make the best cameras, according to MKBHD's "blind camera test" voted by thousands of random regular people

Anyways. yes. i have heard a few people in my class scoff among each other talking about how they hate it when they see "green texts" in their phone, and such.

meanwhile i love the freedom from my android phone, with ad-free spotify and youtube. and i couldn't care less about the color of a text bubble.

[–] Zardozer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you live in the US? Maybe not, but iPhones have something like a 50% market share here, and in some regional cases a lot higher. For example, in southern California where I live, iPhones are easily in the majority of people's hands. The point is that this feeling is probably more a 'your problem' issue, and it's hard to make a case that people use these phones as a way to feel exclusive if the market share is so high. There may be some issues of exclusion amongst teenagers etc., but teenagers are going to teenager. I'm just talking about the US though. In some emerging markets there may be a case made for the iPhone to be seen as 'luxury,' but this hasn't been the case in the US for a while. iPhones are seen as an ordinary, almost default phone.

[–] Arcane_Trixster@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah if i see you got 1000 dollar phone, i assume you're an elitist asshole, or bad with money.

[–] Zardozer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Lots of iPhones cost way less than $1k, and there’s plenty of Android flagships that cost over $1k, and they’re all decent phones. Sure, go ahead and judge people for spending money on a device they use every day.

And what I said about the ‘default’ phone is true, and that’s for normal middle class families. Far from the elite. I’m just reporting the facts, it’s maybe people have a different frame of reference depending on where they live.

[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's the same shit that's been going on for decades. It used to be Apple vs Commodore vs IBM. Then after Commodore imploded it was Mac vs PC. Then refined into RISC vs Intel for the techies and MacOS vs Windows for the rest.

[–] deong@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In their defense, why should they have to care whose fault it is that messaging sucks on Android? They just want a pleasant experience, and iMessage has been the best experience for Apple users for like 15 years. It’s also as much Google’s fault as Apple’s, if we want to get nitpicky about it. I wouldn’t spend a lot of money implementing the protocol Google wants either, because Google will abandon it and back three competing new ones before your next good bowel movement.