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[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 219 points 11 months ago (23 children)

“You’re already” makes sense as a sentence and I don’t like it lol

[–] RandomStickman@kbin.social 192 points 11 months ago (4 children)
[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Y’all’s opinions are irrelevant here. We are enemies now.

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand what yinz guys is sayin

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Youse people…

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't start with that philly jawn

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Philly? I do hope you're kidding

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not kidding, just ignorant 😞

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ha! That's Pittsburghese, friend!

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I realized my faux pas TOO LATE! I got my yinz and jawn all mixed up!

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Y’all’s is perfectly good Texan though.

[–] whodatdair@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago
[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 21 points 11 months ago

I hate you so much rn

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I threw up in my dictionary

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

The reason it feels wrong is that "are" is the main verb in the sentence and shouldn't be contracted. You are only supposed to contract auxiliary verbs like "you're eating already" where eating is the main verb and are is auxiliary.

~~Edit: (I used a bad example because "eating" is a noun, as pointed out below.)~~

Un-edit: The example's correct, "eating" is a verb in this context.

Also, I'm thoroughly confused about who's saying "you're already" in this comic.

[–] door_in_the_face@feddit.nl 11 points 11 months ago (8 children)

But "You're already fluffy" works without another main verb?

[–] DaGeek247@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes. It doesn't work as "you're already" and really, it doesn't work all thay well as "you are already" either. This is almost yoda levels of rearrangement.

It makes the most sense as "you already are".

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago
[–] hakase@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yup, this is likely a phonological restriction in addition to a syntactic one, though it's worth noting that the copula (the "be" verb) shows a lot of idiosyncratic behavior in different contexts in different dialects of English.

It seems that this pattern may have something to do with stress assignment within a predicate, but I'm not sure what the conditioning environment is at first glance. Any English phonologists here who can shed some more light on this?

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

I'm no expert, but I think "you're already" doesn't work because the "anti-stress" on the contraction tells us the focus is later, but the focus of "already" is actually on the "are" in "you're". It trips us up because it sneaks the focus past us and then just ends the sentence before the focus the stress told us about arrives.

It may also be because "you are already" is a variant of the sentence "you are" which can't be contracted, so the contraction insinuates "you're already [something]". It makes us parse a different sentence structure than it is, then we get confused when the sentence ends early.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Its obviously the cat's ass, which explains its facial expression.

[–] ForgetPrimacy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago
[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Also, is the cat saying it? The speak marker points to the cat on the third frame not the dude on the third or fourth.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

She's already what though?

Omae wa mo

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It is wrong: should be "You are already", as the emphasis of the sentence is on "are"

https://youtu.be/CkZyZFa5qO0

[–] BoxerDevil@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah but I think it's not a full sentence because she smacks him before he can finish the sentence

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