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[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While this might be an important tool to help many who need it, I can't help but wonder if this essentially criminalizes opting out of capitalism. Anyone that is homeless and uses drugs or has a mental illness can now be involuntarily committed, denying them the right to decide on that sort of life.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How many people are going homeless while giving themselves a plethora of other issues all in the name of sticking it to capitalism??

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no idea. I'm not suggesting people often become homeless because of ideological reasons, however many do opt out of the rat race and choose not to work and participate economically, which is functionally equivalent.

[–] petong@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there is a difference between opting out of the rat race and screaming obscenities at people, defecating on the street, while strewing garbage everywhere.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe one need not exhibit such behaviors to be involuntarily committed under this law.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe not capitalism in name but some vague idea of "the system". The system that raised rents and lowered their wages and forced them into homelessness, and continually punishes them for being so. Addiction and other anti-social behaviors could be an act of rebellion against the pressures of this system. Not all of those pressures are capitalistic, some are just basic requirements for any society, but a large chunk of them are.

[–] stangel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Opting out of capitalism does not give you the right to set up shanty towns in public spaces, or leave needles and feces all over the place. This law is necessary to give our public spaces back to everyone.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  • We've criminalized merely existing in public spaces for too long, and I'm not aware of viable and accessible alternatives if one cannot afford shelter.
  • One need not leave needles and feces about to be committed under this law.
  • I'm troubled by the stereotypes regarding homeless people being promoted in this thread.
[–] stangel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Well it's not working.