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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

"In peace"

Not really. There has been conflict between the two groups since pretty much the day the first Jewish immigrants/settlers arrived in the 1800's. The first recorded violent action was in 1882 when an Arab was shot at a wedding by a Jew so a bunch of Arabs started a small riot vandalising Jewish property. And since there has been so many riots and shooting and checks notes mule thefts, done as retaliation to retaliation to retaliations.

[–] Debeli_Perun@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's actually not true. There's a book called Ten Myths About Israel by Ilan Pappe. Look it up, there's a chapter precisely about that. He brought the receipts.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Debeli_Perun@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

In peace part. There's a lot of documents showing that the first wave of Jews coming to Palestine lived in peace with Palestinians, also a lot of them working together and forming trade unions together which was a problem for Jewish elite. It's presented in the book.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

One incident on a certain date doesn't mean there's conflict between groups. There were plenty of jewish and muslim neighbours helping/hiding eachother when extremists started trying to bully/kill the other group from villages. Living together in peace requires both groups to defeat their extremists

[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True. The three western religions have been at war with each other since they were created.

I guess the thing we can all agree on here was the arrogant stupidity of Great Britain.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Brits just left when they saw they couldn't handle the conflict. I wonder why humans again and again try this concept of "let's just devide the place and protect the borders!". I don't think it ever worked, instead we have multiple examples of how it makes people suffer and has long lasting negative consequences.

To be fair, most divisions took place around WW2, so perhaps it was just a beloved but dumb idea at that time...

[–] snek@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

“In peace”

Not really.

You know Palestinian Jews exist, right? Like, not Jews who immigrated from America or Europe, like... Arab Jews.