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[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Double standards everywhere, Alcohol should get kicked too.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Frankly, we need fewer prohibitions on substances, not more. I drink responsibly and like it. We also know you can't ban alcohol without a black market, so why even feign that it could be done?

We need better enforcement to prevent people acting like idiots when they drink. I don't have ideas to offer on how, as I haven't pondered it at length, but that's the best path in my mind.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Thank you for having some common sense. If we know anything about history, prohibitions on substances just lead to worse outcomes with black market activity and criminal enterprises.

Tobacco is a weird one, because most people I know that smoke, don't really enjoy it, they are just literally addicted. Still, I don't think banning nicotine would be a great move.

I think the taxes are pretty effective. I smoked for a few years in my younger days, and I quit when the prices started to go way up, thanks to taxes.

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't smoke but I love nicotine. Hope they don't go too wild trying to regulate smokeless alternatives out of existence. Nicotine is a fun drug.

[–] SuperJetShoes@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I agree with this. I used nicotine lozenges to wean myself off cigarettes and this was successful.

However, I did notice as a side effect that they helped me concentrate on complex tasks.

So, although I don't use them daily, I leave a pack lying around just to suck on in the same way I might use a cup of coffee to sharpen up in the morning.

I genuinely believe this does me no harm. I think the debates started to get heated when inhalation is involved.

[–] Umbraveil@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My bourbon French toast says otherwise.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Hence, double standard lol

[–] JewGoblin@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

true, but most if not all tobacco users get addicted and smoke every day, killing our young people.

alcohol, while dangerous is not as habit forming, but I see where you're coming from

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago

It's entirely possible to enjoy alcohol responsibly and the vast majority of people do. Shall we can cars because some people can't stop getting in them while inebriated and crashing them?

99.999% of smokers are doing substantial damage to themselves and others.