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[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is all under the idea that every vote is counted 100% equally in every stance. The idea ignores how presidential primaries start on the east side of the country and the western side has the choices limited by the eastern. It ignores the electoral college, gerrymandering, voter disenfranchisment, voter suppression, misinformation, manipulation by other countries, and probably a bunch more I think can't of right now. One of the most reductive ideas I've ever heard is "you get what you vote for". If that were actually true, everything I listed above wouldn't exist.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

The idea ignores how presidential primaries start on the east side of the country and the western side has the choices limited by the eastern.

Reagan was from California.

It ignores the electoral college

On an individual State-by-State level, I've never seen the population vote one way and the Electoral College delegates choose different.

I would have no problem with the Electoral College going away, but for the most part how people vote are reflected correctly through the Electoral College.

It ignores the electoral college, gerrymandering, voter disenfranchisment, voter suppression, misinformation, manipulation by other countries, and probably a bunch more I think can’t of right now

But all of that will exist no matter what, you're never going to get a perfect purified form of democracy, human beings are too messy for that.

Honestly you bringing those up is something of a strawman for what I was trying to discuss.

One of the most reductive ideas I’ve ever heard is “you get what you vote for”.

You do get what you vote for, that statement is not reductive it's just simplifying all the various complex points for the sake of conversation.

That phrase means more than the actually just marking your choice on a ballot, it means getting off your ass and going to vote in the first place, know who your senators and congressperson is, etc.

If that were actually true, everything I listed above wouldn’t exist.

No your whole perspective is something of a strawman. You bringing up all the faults and you're saying the totality of those faults 100% prevents democracy from happening, which is just a strawman and not true.