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[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 58 points 8 months ago

Israel is doing a genocide, the us and its puppets are funding or arming the genociders, and Europe is banning protests of the genocide.

Western capitalist hegemony is a fascistic death cult that will destroy us all unless we destroy it first, and every day we don’t millions are condemned to horrific deaths

[-] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

I really wish I could have a permanent record of everything every liberal has ever said so I could easily demonstrate how full of shit they are in 10 to 20 years when they all collectively deny ever having supported Israel through the Palestinian genocide.

[-] ziggurter@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

I'd say, "It's the Internet", but these days institutional powers seem to be able to convince even Internet archives to remove shit that's too inconvenient for them.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 8 months ago

So far, it was only France that banned pro-Palestinean protests. But the French government is also far right, so it makes sense. Don't equate their fascism to the rest of Europe, please.

[-] foxinabox@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

I understand its not about Europe but Switzerland banned several protests in big cities as well.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago

Really? That honestly surprises me. Also means that I'm not really up-to-date anymore.

[-] foxinabox@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago
[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm German, so no language barrier. Thanks!

Edit: Holy hell, that poll. 65% support the ban of pro-Palestine demos because it's "too touchy". Media did a great job programming the public to think "pro-Palestine" is on par with "pro-Hamas".

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Germany has been one of Israel's staunchest supporters all throughout the Cold War - despite the fact that Germany's security services have been festering swamps of nazi-ideology before all the WW2 rubble had been carted away.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The link is to a Swiss newspaper tho, which is why I was surprised.

One of the largest worker unions in Germany (ver.di) proudly and openly proclaims that they stand with Israel and they have been doing that for years. Now why are they doing this instead of focusing on their actual purpose? Senseless activism to avoid being labeled as nazis. In Germany, being a nazi is way worse than supporting a genocide.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Senseless activism to avoid being labeled as nazis.

The fact that it's even possible to conflate criticism with Israel with anitsemitism just shows to what extent the west has avoided dealing with it's own antisemitism - most westerners don't seem to have the foggiest idea what it even is or isn't. I wonder why the Apartheid-regime never tried deflecting criticism of itself by blaming everyone else of "reverse racism"...

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Every country in Europe is flirting with overt far-right ideology... as opposed to just nurturing it covertly (which is the normal state of affairs for Europe, it seems).

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