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I've had a certain debate a few times where you might say we argue over the "semantics" of the meat industry.

I am what you would call a vegetarian. While vegetarians won't eat things that caused harm to produce, a vegan won't eat anything having to do with an animal. A lot of those who would fall under the latter category hate us because they say anything that remotely resembles someone enjoying an animal product is supporting the meat industry which then kills animals, which means merely eating an animal product makes someone a murderer.

Meanwhile, there's this concept many call piracy. It's the idea that, as the meme proverbially puts it, "you can download a car". The idea here, which I say in the way I do because there's still an ongoing debate about it, is that it affects nobody. But then there's the whole industry thing I mentioned. People on the other side of the debate often say "well what about the industry". I'm not sure where on the scale in this topic you might put me, but I feel like there's a glaring contradiction here. When it comes to animals, people think of the industry, but otherwise that's not a factor.

My question is... why?

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[โ€“] Cosmicomical@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Producing eggs and milk DOES cause harm though. Vegans are not crazy paranoid extremist people, that's just what the meat industry wants people to think. Vegans are just more aware of the damage we are doing to animals. Btw being vegetarian is definitely better than nothing

[โ€“] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By that same logic, having pets causes harm. If you want to take that stance then we should really just put up a large border between humanity and nature instead of having so many humans live in nature since we clearly abuse it. Even things like nature reserves and preservation areas would end up harming the evolution of the ecosystems in play. We've caused numerous issues with migration patterns and even going further into the designated nature areas, we have only kept nature as we know it. Rather than having it naturally progress and evolve.

[โ€“] Cosmicomical@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Sure, because it's either you are a saint and you go back to stone age or you might as well burn tires in your back yard. I understand that you want to keep eating meat, but don't sell me this shit. Life is not black and white and I don't claim to be perfect. You CAN do a bit of good and still live your life without being perfect.