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[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are the advantages of a redistributional, social security safety net income and a minimum wage. UBI does not deliver, because EVERYONE gets it. It is impossible that for example housing prices would stay the same. They'd rise, because now the kid with the rich parent still outbids you: (UBI) vs (UBI + rich parents), the inequality in society stays the same, at best. It would only work if accumulated capital is redistributed equally over everyone as well. Which is communism.

Social corrections to existing system are superior. Not everyone should get the same. Some people need more, some need less.

Yes, everyone should have the right to good housing, food and to live stressfree (that is, with a bit of a financial buffer instead of pay cheque to pay cheque), but UBI will not accomplish that. Social-democratic systems such as Western and northern Europe already have, do, to reasonable extent.

[–] centof@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

A well implemented UBI would be funded by a progressive tax system that taxes rich people more heavily that anyone else. If that is the case a rich persons taxes would end up increasing more than the UBI amount. At the same time everyone else's taxes may increase some but the UBI would more than cover the increase. That would lead to a net decrease in inequality.

Social corrections to existing system are superior. Not everyone should get the same. Some people need more, some need less.

A UBI as described above is a social correction. In essence it would redistribute money from those who have plenty of excess money to those who are struggling.

but UBI will not accomplish that.

This is just your opinion. How do you know it won't accomplish that when it has never been implemented at scale?

Social-democratic systems such as Western and northern Europe already have, do, to reasonable extent.

Ultimately a UBI can achieve a similar end result as the social-democratic systems. The key is in making sure it is implemented well. UBI is just a way of achieving the same goal in a different way.