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[–] imgel@lemmy.ml 104 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man if Libre peeps and OnlyOffice UI/UX devs joined forces, we would be living in the year 3000.

[–] anonymoose@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been using LibreOffice as an MS Office replacement for a decade or so, although most of my documents are still on Google docs. The LibreOffice UI seems to have never really improved at all, and even the updating experience is annoying. I don't understand how such a lucrative productivity app has no developer support behind it?

OpenOffice got me really excited, because that UI seems modern and polished. It's really unfortunate that it's mostly we lb based and apparently really slow.

So yeah, 100% agree with you. LibreOffice with the OpenOffice UI would be 🔥

[–] Interstellar_1@pawb.social 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] anonymoose@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Oops, yeah, I did!

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Btw, There's about 4 UI's with two variants each in view > user interface.

[–] anonymoose@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I did not know that, I'll check out the other options, thanks!

[–] noro_lim_asfaloth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Idk, LibreOffice UI seems pretty decent for me.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's this the new UI? It's been a while since I use LibreOffice and the UI was worse than office 2003.

[–] noro_lim_asfaloth@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's not a default but I just changed it to tabbed view in the settings, picked Sifr icons in the settings, and installed adw-gtk3 theme on GNOME which makes gtk3 apps blend more with the default libadwaita GNOME theme.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 8 points 1 year ago

It's actually not bad! Thanks!

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[–] anonymoose@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Neat, the customization does help make it look a lot better than the defaults. I wonder why they didn't just make this the new UI.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Actually my dad prefer the default UI. But he used Windows 95 and the office suite that goes with it for a long time, so his habits are hard to loose.

[–] pascal@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I'm impressed by how they were able to make a worse ribbon interface than Microsoft itself.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only problem with that logic is that OnlyOffice is a webapp, thus slow. Libre is Java but still faster.

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

AFAIK Libreoffice only uses Java for limited things and isn’t a requirement.

Pretty sure it’s mostly C++

[–] qwesx@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct, Java is only needed for (letter) templates and macros.
I used it for years without any JVM installed... until I wanted to use a template. :(

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Macros should work without JVM. But a few extensions (like the NLP Solver and LanguageTool) require Java.

[–] crossfadedragon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah you can disable the Java part somewhere in settings.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Advanced and uncheck Use a Java runtime environment

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay this is interesting, but still slow as hell to launch and it does fell like a Java app in a lot of ways. Funky UI behaviors like flickering and delays here and there...

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Small update, under Windows, if one disables Java, Skia rendering and anti-aliasing it seems to go way faster and the UI behaves better:

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I find it a lot snappier in Fedora than on windows.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Nothing is snappy under GNOME.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being "slower" for an office app is not a deal breaker imo. Having less smooth scrolling or 1s slower image insertion does not negatively impact my ability to write shitty reports.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah sure, until you're dealing with a 50 page document and even the cursor lags and becomes impossible to move stuff around and/or scroll without having to wait looking at "empty pages" that will eventually display your content after 2-3 seconds :)