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Speaking from the Oval Office starting at 8 p.m. ET, Biden made the case to Americans that it's vital to both global and U.S. national security to assist Israel as it responds to terror attacks by Hamas as well as to continue help for Ukraine as it fends off Russian invaders.

"Hamas and Putin represent different threads but they share this in common: They both want to completely annihilate a neighboring democracy," Biden said, referring to the extremists and Russia's president.

Biden said he knows the conflicts can seem distant and Americans might be asking why it's vital to U.S. security interests that Israel and Ukraine succeed.

"History has taught us that when terrorists don't pay a price for their terror, when dictators don't pay a price for their aggression, they cause more chaos and debt and more destruction," Biden said. "They keep going -- and the cost and the threats to America and the world keep rising."

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[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only looking at the effect not the causes, pushing for more endless wars.

Pushing for peace should have been the first thing for all these wars we keep funding endlessly.

Reminds me of: "They got money for wars, but can't feed the poor" - Keep Ya Head Up by 2Pac


The report said Biden told Netanyahu that he remained “fully in support” of Israel’s plans to launch a ground incursion to “eliminate Hamas” despite outrage over the bombing of the Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City that Israel is blaming on an errant Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket. The US is backing Israel’s side of the story, while Palestinian officials insist an Israeli airstrike hit the hospital.

Antiwar stance:

Report: Biden Gives Netanyahu ‘Private Backing’ for Gaza Ground Invasion

https://news.antiwar.com/2023/10/18/report-biden-gave-netanyahu-private-backing-for-gaza-ground-invasion/

[–] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your collective positions on US foreign policy are goddamn incoherent, and your sources are unreliable

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought I was being clear, my policy is antiwar, peace and negotiations.

As mentioned, that is the Antiwar.com stance, which is bias and pro anti war.

This site is devoted to the cause of non-interventionism and is read by libertarians, pacifists, leftists, "greens," and independents alike, as well as many on the Right who agree with our opposition to imperialism.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think what Hamas did in Israel is abhorrent, and I think what Israel is doing in Gaza is abhorrent, and I think what Russia is doing in Ukraine is abhorrent. What Russia is doing to Ukraine is so similar to what Israel is doing to Gaza, which is why you have no coherence at all on any of this.

Your "antiwar.com" story is an entire article written about one sentence attributed to an anonymous source in a Times of London article. The Times is a well-known conservative rag owned by Rupert Murdoch, and any "leftist" site holding that up as an authoritative source is just dumb as fuck

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 1 points 1 year ago

I would say forcing or pushing to end the wars, then coming to peace talks, would help stop the endless blood shed.

The poor/working class are always the ones being killed, while the wealthy class/gov't elites stay out of the front lines.

Thanks for letting me know, it is hard to find antiwar stances that are legit.

Do you have any you can share?

YT channels, journalists to follow, or on Independent media?