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[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I mean, the argument from idiots will be that they're pleading guilty because the deep state will disappear them or some crazy bullshit.

Trying to use logic to argue with those people is like playing chess against a ~~pidgin~~pigeon. They'll knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, then strut around like they won.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I find the socratic method sometimes works. You ask them questions and let them argue with themselves.

But as you say, arguing with pigeons will only result in shit in your hair.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wow, pigeons really taking a beating in this conversation.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They are basically rats with wings.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Since when have trump supporters had wings?

[–] trash@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Woopdie flippin ding, Winger

[–] willworkforicecream@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I thought that Trump drained the swamp so that they couldn't do stuff like this?

[–] Triyfer@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

So, I've never liked that phrase. What happens when you drain a swamp? You remove all the stagnant water and dead-zones. But what is left behind? He said he would drain the swamp, not remove the scum.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

He drained it so he could fill it with his own swamp.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

This is what I really don't get, what did he do while in power for 4 years? Surely if he was voted there to drain the swamp and then didn't, it makes him in ineffectual leader, so why vote for him again? Get someone else in to drain the swamp and this time do it right.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah, we need to get over the fantasy that any facts that come out of these investigations will sway anyone about trump.

The fact is that anyone intelligent who supports him already knows he's a crook, and just doesn't care, because his policies benefit them (for now), and the rest will just swallow whatever blatant lie trump feeds them

[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're thinking of pigeons, not pidgins. They're surprisingly very different.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Damn it, and I just listened to a review podcast where they were roasting people for misspelling it.

In my defense, my predictive text had it as an option instead of the right one.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

A pidgin is a real thing, so your predictive text is right to have it. It's a word for a language that is created when two groups that speak different languages regularly interact with each other. They end up learning a sort of simplified hybrid of their two languages and that hybrid is a called a pidgin. Sometimes they become developed and established enough to be people's first language, at which point it's called a creole

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

They're pleading guilty for the same reason anyone does. The prosecutor guaranteed a lighter sentence for pleading guilty than if they went to trial and lost.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Ignoring the actual trailer-load of evidence the Feds have on those two, they are pleading guilty because they saw what happened to Tarrio & Stuart Rhodes.

The Feds aren't even done with Rhodes yet, they are appealing his sentence because it isn't long enough for them.