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I only see a handful of communities posts, but miss a lot from smaller communities that aren't as active but do get daily posts. Reddit blended in smaller communities really well and it's something I'm struggling with here.

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[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That's because there is no sorting algo based on... well anything. Tracking your interests and how much time you've spent on a comm as well.

If you choose popular/active, it gives you the most active posts, if you choose new, you get the newest ones. It doesn't prioritize in any way. The idea is NOT to track what users do.

Though I miss comm/sub tracking as well, it gave good suggestions and kept the feed filled with interesting posts.

It could probably be implemented client wise (in app), but this thing barely works as it is now (so do the apps), so that will take time.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't need user tracking to try to show smaller communities in between larger ones, you just need some sorting method that incorporates that. Hot is already scored with some algorithm, that algorithm could take into account size as well, or just a new sort with that.

[–] Casiraghi@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

The equivalent of multireddits could help, but I don't think it's implemented yet.

Could probably be done even via app.

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, you're probably right... something could be done in that regard I guess. But the algo needs to be more complicated if it doesn't actually track user data... or less complicated, but less effective.

[–] InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve been feeling the same pain, of small, less active communities just not showing up in the feed. While in principle I am very much against “the algorithm”, this will lead to a feedback loop where small communities remain small because they will be much harder to find and revisit, even more so as large ones grown even larger.

We need a kind of sort that is able to get posts of smaller/less active communities interspersed with the rest. This does not/should not be a user profiling algorithm, etc. Just a blind “show the latest post from every community unless it is over x days old, and only then show the second newest,etc” or similar would help.

As things stand now, I’ve considered unsubscribing from some communities so that they do not overwhelm the feed, but it feels like a bad solution.

[–] WhatASave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have about 30 communities I'm subscribed to and 90% of it is the memes and shitpost communities. So 2 communities are basically all I see. They're probably the most active but it's still extremely disproportionate. I'm like you I want to unsubscribe but it doesn't seem like the right way. Maybe I'll do it to test if smaller communities content comes through.

[–] justgohomealready@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think I found a good solution: I created 3 accounts in 3 different instances. In one instance, I only subscribe to serious stuff like worldnews and technology and things like that. In another account, I subscribe only to memes. Both these accounts have NSFW disabled. The third account is the NFSW one.

At least in the Liftoff app, it's trivial to change between accounts - so I basically have 3 separate feeds, with the added benefit that if any one of the instances is down I can still use Lemmy and see what's going on in the "All" tab in any of the instances.

[–] WhatASave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is a good idea to try out. I'll try it thanks!

[–] InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve considered this, but fragmenting my identity seems a bit of a hassle as well. Ultimately, it will alleviate the problem but not solve it, anyway.

In any case, there is an open issue on github (someone beat me to it). Let’s hope it gains traction!

github issue

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd have to imagine that this is something that could be implemented per-instance, as well. For example, some instances could work toward a more aggressive recommendation algorithm, while others can aim for a more neutral feed. I can see the appeal to both versions, and honestly would probably keep an active account on both of those such instances, myself.

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That would have to be done in the BE, so even if it custom implemented, you'd have to reimplement it after every update. That is a PITA to maintain trust me. Why do you think so many companies contribute to Linux code, cuz it's a PITA to maintain your custom patches to the code, you maintain a very small subset of those and let the rest be maintained by everyone else.