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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Know what did happen shortly before Columbine? Reagan dissembled our mental health infrastructure.

I was a teen in the late 80's. Hell, I thought homelessness was a normal thing I simply hadn't heard of until MTv started flogging it.

And if the mass shooting didn't start post-Columbine...? LOL, we didn't have that word in our lexicon.

FFS, we used to able to buy shotguns in the auto parts store. But suddenly, guns and "easy access" are the problem?

Why don't you folks start a fight you have a chance of actually winning? Shut down the right-wing propaganda, hard, yesterday.

And while we're at it, I'd kill for a solid study on how many killers, including suicides, are left/right politically. We both know how that's gonna play out.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am saying that something else started it. Mental health care has been terrible for way longer than Columbine. And youre going to have to explain why there was a decade and a half gap between Reagan and this mass shooting. Dont get me wrong, Reagan was a real piece of shit but I don't think mental health or the lack of it is the major cause. Easy access to guns OTOH...

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

Mass shootings pre columbine were more rare but weren't unheard of. Mostly they were belltower or highway sniper style incidents or postal related as they were severely overworked at the time.

Also, while mass shootings were more rare, not only could you get one at the hardware store you could order a full auto directly to your door with no background check or even ID for a while.

Just to add.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Up until 2000, the NRA was actually a big supporter of gun control. At that point they switched to being pretty much zero tolerance for any gun control, and even trying to dismantle gun control.

One could apply the same logic you just did to blame mental health regulations to blame this instead.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They became a lobbying group for gun manufacturers and their shareholders.