Socialism is defined as the working people either directly owning or democratically controlling the economy. I don't see how that is the case in any "socialist" country at the moment (speaking of the nordic ones, Portugal, China etc)

[–] ZodiacSF1969@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao you are literally the 'but that's not real socialism/communism' meme right now 🤣

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Imma bring up an example to maybe explain it easier. North Korea calls itself the "Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea". In their official understanding/rhetoric they have a democracy in which the administration acts in the interest of the people instead of a few bureaucratic elites. In reality it's the other way around. Now, if someone said "Look at what democracy does to a country!!11!", would you not object?

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God damn that is an excellent, concise refutation of his tired point. Definitely going to borrow that argument in the future

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

yeah.. the cognitive dissonance hurts

[–] Speccie@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey hey hey now don’t bring us Nordic countries into this🥺

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

sorry to disillusion you but your system is capitalism with a nice coat of paint over it. It's still based on exploitation, imperialism, neo-colonialism and oil/fossil fuel money