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Substitute left for right, and you will find the same sort of commentary being made, except using different political talking points. The worst part about it is the hatred towards critical thinking shared by both sides. "Consider multiple arguments from their respective points of view, look at the evidence and rationales, and form my own judgements? No thanks, that's stupid, I'd rather believe all politics devolve into a line of people who are right versus people who are wrong while ignoring the exponential branches of information systems as they grow in complexity, totally isn't me devolving complex issues into tribalism."
Governments still work because there are still people within them capable of critical thinking, but I dread the day these morons begin to get elected and try to chest pump their ideology from all sides of the radicalized spectrum.
Incidentally, trying to call people who exist outside of the radicalized left-right schism centrists is just showing your ignorance and bias; when you don't devolve issues into simple left and right, there is no "center", nor does it mean everything is an indistinct shade of grey. It gets even more complex than that because of the tendency of radicals and external influence to try to portray everything into one of two sides, which does actually make political posturing be about the left and the right, but focusing on those takes is probably the biggest hint that you trying to base yourself on a flawed perspective without nuance.
It doesn't surprise me that most people choose to become a dot on a line because, quite frankly, most people (including me) are morons about the issues they try to approach as if they were experts, yet many still see themselves as infallible while doing so because of overextended projecting from some branch of a knowledge they are actually experts of. The left-right pantheon is basically the very hyper-rationalization of that projection. Trying to define that dot on the line is very much like the Romans who tried to establish a relationship between their deities and that of the locals in their path to conquest. I will admit, it certainly is very effective at manipulating the same sort of people who are easily tickled by their own ego.
Nah this is a both sides/centrist argument which is just bullshit.
Compare what the left advocates for compared to right over history and you'll see the left is demonstrably more on the ball. Right is just full of corrupt morons at this point in time looking to pad their wallets.
It's hard if not impossible to de-radicalize a zealot who's been convinced to throw critical thinking into the trash. I too can tell you how my god Jupiter is the best and how he's really all the good things you know of your god Amun-Ra, and that anyone saying otherwise is just an agent of Eris/Apothis, but I prefer to leave imaginary bullshit out of a conversation.
It's kind of ironic you say that given your views that the left is the same as the right lol. I'd suggest using your own advice and apply some critical thinking and stop trying to go on random unrelated arguments.