this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2023
486 points (83.1% liked)

World News

39019 readers
2197 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There are actually Russians who I’ve heard say things like “Crimea is ours anyway,” and “Ukraine is supposed to be a part of Russia.” And I’m talking about Russian emigres in America who are not looking over their shoulders.

It’s not everyone. Mostly blowhard assholes but they do exist. The Russian people aren’t all sitting there thinking the right things but keeping their lips sealed.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The second sentence of this article is stating that only 30% of Russians want to end the war if they have to give back annexed regions of Ukraine.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yes but there’s a lot of speculation in this thread that they are all just saying what they feel they have to because the KGB is watching. I’m sure that’s true for some but for others the sentiment is genuine.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every country has a lot of idiotic nationalists, especially those which have an glorified, imperialist past. What matters is how much suffering are they willing to impose upon themselves to satisfy the demands of their collective narcissism, and Russians who live abroad aren't going to be the ones suffering it the most.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And those who’ve left the motherland are probably not the most nationalist, so there you go.

[–] MikuNPC@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You would think that but it isn't always so clear. My college had a sizable chunk, if not a majority, of foreign Chinese students and they were extremely patriotic/nationalist.

But to be fair maybe those who never left China are even more patriotic, I wouldn't know.