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This is the second advertising post I've seen on lemmy and they were both today. I'm wondering how other people feel about it or if they've even seen posts like this?

Personally I'm livid and hate seeing it here. One of the things that attracts me to lemmy is the donation based, volunteer run, distributed, open access nature of it. I don't want it to become profit driven and I really don't want to see companies in what I belive should be a purely social endeavour. I really think making it profit driven will ruin it, if that means it stays smaller then I'm okay with that.

Now I know I can block them and move on which is what I've done. I'm also pleased to say that both posts I saw were heavily downvoted and I did my part too.

I'm curious if other people agree with me and don't want advertising like this on lemmy? Also, what do people think we can actually do about it if we don't want it around? Petition instance admins to ban advertising accounts? Then how do we define one? Can anything actually be done or do I just have to block and move on from a possibly ever increasing flow of advertising until I get bored and move on?

Sorry for the long rambling post and thanks if you read this far.

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[–] 312@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Rules are only as effective as the mechanisms enforcing them - I don’t think anyone wants ads on Lemmy instances, but removal requires moderation tools and staff (volunteer or otherwise) to review everything that’s posted.

I imagine the problem we’ll see is as growth accelerates, post velocity will outpace moderation manpower - short version, you’re always going to have to do some blocking/filtering of your own.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If it's against the rules and people report them, then they just go through and block them as they go. I don't think it's a huge deal.

[–] 312@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A report has to be reviewed for accuracy, there’s still time and resources required. It’s not as simple as just blocking every post or user that has a report submitted against them. People abuse report systems all the time.

[–] QuestioningEspecialy@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still better than "you’re always going to have to do some blocking/filtering of your own." 🤷🏿‍♂️

[–] 312@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wrongly blocking people simply because a report was submitted against them, even if it’s unsubstantiated, is better than users having to do some proactive blocking/filtering?

[–] QuestioningEspecialy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Re-read our conversation while I ask myself if you're arguing in bad faith, 312,.

[–] 312@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

What a shitty response to a valid question. I’ll make this easy and just block you so we can end this here.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see your point, but I don't think it's at a point where it would be hard to do right now. Add mods in the future.

[–] 312@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, it’s manageable now, but it quickly won’t be if Lemmy continues to grow the way it currently is. “Add mods in the future” is kind of a hand-wave of the problem, which is that you need mods who are:

  • fair and responsible
  • willing to dedicate (potentially large) amounts of time and energy to moderating
  • willing to moderate for free

That disqualifies a large swath of people from moderation.

Now of course, it’s possible and it’s happened before, Reddit has a huge number of dedicated unpaid mods and it’s because of them Reddit was able to grow to the platform it was.

But it’s a little more complex than “throw more people at the problem” when you need people who are incentivized by something other than payment.

The unfortunate problem is that once you remove money from the equation, power is the closest great incentivizer. And power hungry mods are bad mods.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Reddit has been doing all of this for awhile, I don't think it's as much as a problem as you're making out. I've never seen an ad? This is the first one and it was posted.

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