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[โ€“] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Whoever administers the Gaza strip, has to be neutral, or at least acceptable to the government of Israel. Egypt has a complex history with the government of Israel, and Israel probably doesn't want Egyptian listening posts inside of their territory.

[โ€“] K4mpfie@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Egypt warned Israel about this attack. Egypt is not an enemy of Israel and hasn't been for a long time. Also >inside of their territory. Since when is Gaza part of Israel's territory?? Pretty biased language there.

[โ€“] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They control the territory militarily, it's defacto Israeli territory. I don't wish it to be so, but it is.

From a Military perspective intentions don't matter, only capabilities. Egypt is a theater competitor, it would be foolish to give them more military capabilities.

[โ€“] K4mpfie@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't know the Golan Heights were basically Austrian Territory when they controlled during their UN Mandate. See how stupid that sounds? If a peace force would move in the IDF would obviously not be in military control anymore there.

A theater competitor for what theater? The Yom Kippur War was 50 years ago.

[โ€“] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Austrians would be foolish not to collect intelligence where their troops were deployed. It's about capabilities. A military presence is a risk, and it's part of the political calculus.

I'm happy to debate with you but I ask that you not make personal attacks (calling me stupid) when we both have useful perspectives to contribute to the conversation.

[โ€“] qnick@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At least Egypt doesn't officially deny the Israel's right to exist. That's good enough.

[โ€“] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not really good enough.

Inside of the borders of Israel, they are going to have security concerns, and they are not going to want foreign militaries to collect intelligence, to base weapons, to put them in a strategic disadvantage.

If the UN is going to police the area, there's going to be a long negotiation with Israel to determine which countries they find "acceptable" to be the peacekeeping force.

[โ€“] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

Maybe a joint international task group, UN backed?

Either that or Portugal

[โ€“] bartolomeo@suppo.fi -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wow straight to defending the abuser...ok.

[โ€“] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 8 months ago

I'm not making any pro apartheid or pro-colonial statements, I'm trying to illustrate a political and military calculus that would be used if peacekeeping forces were to be deployed.