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Yeah, but you shouldn't release people before they're re-socialized either. Gaza needs an occupying force for the same reason my home country needed one in 1945: Way too many fascist in the population.
Some some survey data:
53% approval rate for Hamas in 2019, .
In a survey this summer 70% of Palestinians were against a two-state solution and a majority of favor of an "armed struggle"
And of course there's the fact that 2013 at least 59% of Palestinians were in favor of executing apostates (i.e. murdering people who cease to be Muslim).
That said, of course there needs to be a positive economic development. Just like there was in Germany under occupation.
Don't compare Palestine to Germany, compare them to Poland or France. Or another occupied country in WW2.
Do you think they would support armed resistance or the partisans fighting the Nazis? That's what Palestinians believe. Israel has invaded their land.
That's part of why the comparison works so well. Large German speaking regions had ended up in other countries (e.g. Poland, France) after the German empire lost WW1 (which Germany and Austria started). That's akin to Palestinian regions ending up under Israeli occupation after the 1947 and 1967 wars of aggression against Israel.
Hamas terrorists aren't resistance fighters. They're just as bad as the SS. They use a perceived slight against their people to justify murdering children. Fortunately this time the balance of power is different.