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[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

At least Harry gets a pip! The former Maquis are forever stuck with their provisional ranks. These always bugged me…

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Janeway had the authority to promote Starfleet officers under her command, but not the authority to recruit new officers. Hence the "provisional" part. But the situation required it so all the Maquis she integrated wore those alternate pips until Starfleet could ratify and approve them (most, if not all of which, they did.)

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But didn't she recruit Tom Paris? Or did she just "restore" his rank of Lt? If she had the authority to restore a criminal's rank, surely she would have had the authority to recruit, either way.

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paris graduated Starfleet Academy, and had a rank before being jailed. They don't say it outright, but I think Janeway got Starfleet's permission to commute his remaining sentence in exchange for being an "observer" on her ship. But even without being part of her crew officially, he was part of Starfleet again (uniform) so she had the power to promote (and demote) him at her discretion.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Ah I think you're right. I think she says that at the prison colony, that he'll be free to do whatever he wants in exchange for guiding them through the badlands.

[–] LordTrychon@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

When she did that, she was in contact with Starfleet. She didn't do it unilaterally on her own using powers granted to her as captain.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've seen Voyager 3 times and never noticed they had alt pips. Wow. 🤦🏻‍♂️

If you're looking to hire a private investigator, you should....call someone else. I'm not that observant apparently.

[–] eva_sieve@startrek.website 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel better, Captain Chakotay had normal pips by the time the Protostar was commissioned. Guess Janeway just didn't want to grant ranks away from Starfleet proper.

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just always imagined an awkward conversation between Janeway and some new species she had just beamed on board: “so uh, Captain, why do some of your crew have different rank pins?”

“Oh, you mean the terrorists? Don’t worry about it, they’re fine.”

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Anyway don't worry about it because commander Sisco has normal pips, and he's worse than any of them.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Ohhhh I was wondering what those strip badges were. Provisional ranks.